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February 27, 2007

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Is this similar to the Italian OO flour? We don't have cake flour in the UK but I have a feeling that they are one and the same. If so, cake flour is also excellent for pasta and bread making.

Freya, 00 flour and cake flour are not the same, though both are low in protein and very soft. Seems like our all-purpose flour, if more finely milled, would be closer to the 00 flour. Here's one good explanation:

http://www.ochef.com/830.htm

For US readers, King Arthur does sell Italian flour:

http://www.kingarthurflour.com/shop/landing.jsp?go=DetailDefault&ref=ti&id=3338&gclid=CMzJ0uz9zooCFQoygQodOld7bA

I'm always forgetting the difference and characteristics of these different flours. And honestly, didn't even track this stuff until the last few years - although as a young child I LOVED to bake.

There is a wonderful family cake recipe (below) that I'll have to make with the different flours to see how it changes.

This is a wonderful cake - the ultimate comfort food - that used to be de rigeur in my house for a birthday. It's from my grandmother.

Nanny's Hot Milk Cake
4 eggs, 2 c granulated sugar, 2 c flour (?type), 2 t baking powder, 1 T pure vanilla extract or scrapings from the bean, 1/4 lb butter, 1 c milk scalded.

Sift flour and baking powder together. Heat milk and butter together - scald. Beat eggs for at least 15 minutes.
Add flour and warmed milk in thirds to eggs. Add quickly - do not let stand. Add vanilla. Bake in floured and buttered cake pans in 350 degree oven until lightly browned. Check at 35 - 45 minutes.

It's best if the cake sits for a day to let flavor permeate. we use a chocolate cocoa based frosting with it - if anyone's interested let me know.

Lydia,

We don't have cake flour here. To be honest, even bread flour is something completely new (released a year or so ago).
So we (me, my mother, my grandmother, etc) have always baked everything - cookies, cakes, bread - with common wheat flour.

Now that we have bread flour here, who knows we'll also have cake flour in the future? :)

I use King Arthur all-purpose flour when I make dough, but I've never used cake flour. 'Course I don't bake much either. But now I'll be better armed next time I do. Thanks Lydia!

Link, thanks for sharing your family recipe (I do love when readers add their recipes in the comments!) -- could you use a chocolate buttercream icing? It's easy to convert the King Arthur Flour recipe, with a bit of cocoa powder.

Patricia, I always use all-purpose flour too, for breads and other types of dough. Occasionally, though, for cakes it's nice to have the option of a lower-protein flour.

Susan, King Arthur is still my all-time favorite, most reliable flour. I didn't know until I started writing this post that they also make cake flour!

Hey, that's what my mom uses! When I was younger, I used to bug her about why there isn't another "s" if it's supposed to be "soft as silk", haha... I should be putting much more thought into what I eat, like you do! I never knew real bleach was used in bleaching flour! Ooooh, your spice cake sounds very very tempting... unfortunately, I just had a gingerbread accident recently and so shall shelve plans for the moment :)

King Arthus is the best, i agree. I've used cake flour a time or two. You can't always find it here.

Like the cognac in that cake!

I was just thinking about cake flour. I have never used it before but I truly think I need to have this in my kitchen! Thanks for posting this.

Shilpa, I noticed that about the spelling, too! I'll bet it was the package designer who decided to leave the "s" out. I read about your gingerbread accident on your blog (Pantry readers, please visit Shilpa's blog and leave notes of gingerbread sympathy....) but hope you'll get back to baking soon.

Mimi, is cognac in cake ever a bad thing? I think not!

Veron, have fun experimenting with cake flour. It's still pretty new to me, too.

I use the same brand as you, because it's the one that's always on the sh.elves at the grocery store. :):) Wish they would carry King Arthur

Oooooh, spice cake! I haven't had one in years. And I'm glad to see some one else using yogurt in place of buttermilk. I can't get buttermilk here and I actually like the texture yogurt gives better!

Cognac in anything is a good thing.

Sher, my local grocery store is carrying more King Arthur products these days, but not the cake flour. I'm going to request it.

Katie, I love the texture of yogurt in cake. But for buttermilk, I use the powdered stuff, because I always end up with leftover buttermilk when I buy the quart size.

Mimi, amen!

Haha, thanks for rallying sympathy for me Lydia! :) How often do the words "gingerbread" and "sympathy" get linked in this way? Am feeling better with the tooth back in its place!

Lydia, in Australia we don't have specialised cake flour. I buy a product from Indonesia instead or mix my own cake flour. Lots of job *sigh*

I wish this flour available in my store!!!
I had used cake flour (other brand), fantastic texture, no other subsitute can achieve it. However cake flour just not always available.

Shilpa, glad to her you are on the mend. Those gingerbread injuries are the worst....

Anh and Gattina, there are so many products you have available locally that I can't get here in Rhode Island. Even though we are close to Boston and New York, a lot of products just don't make it to this small place. But we do a lot of baking here -- the old Italian heritage -- so baking supplies are one thing I can find anywhere.

Hi,

I'm trying to cook healthier foods for my family. One of the things I'm interested in is wheat flour. How do I cook/bake with wheat flour and get the same results as with bleached flour?

Wilda, welcome to The Perfect Pantry. Cooking healthy foods for your family is wonderful -- I hope you'll share some recipes as I write about pantry items that you use in your cooking. As I'm not an expert baker, I'm going to send you by email some sources where you'll be able to learn more about white vs. wheat flour.

Hello there! Found your (awesome) site via a google search on 'Cake Flour'. Thanks for the write-up!

On more digging, 'cake flour' is called 'soft flour' in the UK. Citation here: http://www.recipezaar.com/library/getentry.zsp?id=64

Not sure of the validity, but thought it might help your UK readers.

Happy baking!
- Patrick

Patrick, so glad you found your way to The Perfect Pantry! Thank you for this very helpful info -- I always want to learn more about how my pantry items "translate" to other countries.

50 years ago my mother made spice cakes and spice cup cakes. What was memorable and tasty was a hardened icing on top, sort of a pearl white in color and like a praline without nuts in texture. I have no idea what it was, so whenever I see spice cake on the internet, I look to see what icing/frosting they use. Would love to know what that was!

Tom, I wonder if the icing was royal icing? That gets very hard.

Lydia, Yes, some form of one. It was sort of creamy off white with some brown swirls (cinnamon and ?) in it. And I think she stuck some pecan pieces in it before it hardened.

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